Last Thursday, NBC News issued an anonymously sourced report
claiming that the Trump administration was poised to carry out a
preemptive strike against North Korea if Pyongyang conducted another
nuclear test, as many expected would happen in the next few days.
Luckily, it seems the report was wrong — defense and
intelligence officials aggressively downplayed the possibility of a
preemptive strike, calling the report “wildly wrong,” “crazy,” and
“extremely dangerous,” according to Fox News’s Jennifer Griffin.
But while the report was wrong, the idea wasn’t out of
the realm of possibility — indeed, during his March trip to Asia,
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson refused to rule out a preemptive strike
against North Korea, telling reporters,
“If they elevate the threat of their weapons programs to a level that
we believe requires action, that option is on the table.”
This all raises a troubling question: What would happen if the US really decided to do it?
I spoke with Jonathan Pollack, a senior fellow at the
Brookings Institution who specializes in US strategy in Asia and the
Pacific, to gain a better sense of how it would work. He’s skeptical that the US would ever carry out a preemptive strike except in the most dire circumstances
— he believes North Korea would have to be on the cusp of either
actually using nuclear weapons in an attack or taking other steps that
would pose a very serious threat to South Korean, Japanese, or US
forces. But he said that if it ever happened, one thing is clear: It
would likely spark a war that would wreak havoc in the region and visit
destruction on millions of innocents.
What follows is a transcript of our conversation, lightly edited for length and clarity.
Zeeshan Aleem
What would the US actually target in the case of a preemptive strike?
Jonathan Pollack
The implication is we would target their [nuclear] test site,
we would target every other location we presume they might have nuclear
materials or nuclear weapons hidden — and North Korea, lord knows, has
lots of mountains and caves. Many would presume that we would
[target] the top leadership if you could locate them and know where they
are, and a lot of what they do is underground.
If you’re in an all-bets-are-off scenario, then you’re
going to utilize every capability that you have, you’re going to
mobilize every warplane. If North Korea is about to embark on something
that is so extreme and so dire that it must be prevented at all costs,
you must: 1) do so by whatever means you have [to] prevent that attack
from occurring, and 2) deny North Korea any plausible means to retaliate
for the attack that would be initiated against them. Those two are very
tall orders.
You can get lots of targets — North Korea has more than a million men under arms, they’ve got tunnel complexes, nuclear sites. Could we throw everything but the kitchen sink at it? I guess.
But this is also analyzed to death, and when we look at
it, we come to the same conclusion every time: We would “win a war,” but
the price our allies [would pay] far exceeds whatever the gains would
be. This is why they call [North] Korea “the land of no good options.”
Zeeshan Aleem
What would the North Korean response be?
Jonathan Pollack
If, for sake of argument, the US decides to embark on a
preemptive attack — which I do not in any way, shape, or form endorse or
anticipate — then we had better get ready for a very big war.
If you go in and think you’re just going to do the
equivalent of a “surgical strike” — we’re just going to take out their
testing site — and assume that nothing else bad is going to happen,
that’s very bad planning.
It would be a very big war.
It would have to be, if you want to prevent something really, really
bad from happening as a consequence of your initiating a war, given the
kinds of capability that North Korea demonstrably has — hundreds of
missiles, thousands of artillery pieces, nuclear weapons, special
forces, you name it.
Zeeshan Aleem
What could happen to Japan and South Korea?
Jonathan Pollack
The risk would be that Japan would be the only country in
the history of civilization to have been attacked yet again with a
nuclear weapon. You would see devastation of all kinds directed against
South Korea. You could assume, for example — and you don’t even need
nuclear weapons to do it — direct attacks on South Korea’s nuclear
reactor complex. South Korea has one of the most developed nuclear
energy components of any country in the world.
You’re talking about Seoul, a city which, including its
environs, is more than 20 million people that is within artillery range
of North Korea. You’re quite possibly talking about use of chemical
weapons. The North is very serious about war. They plan for war, they
train for war, they have huge armed forces. And under circumstances of a
direct attack by the US on their territory, I don’t think they would
have a lot of incentives for restraint.
Zeeshan Aleem
Pyongyang can fire nuclear warheads that would reach Japan?
Jonathan Pollack
That’s one of the great debates — whether they’ve
miniaturized a warhead sufficiently to be able to put it atop a missile
and reach targets in Japan and maybe beyond. And a lot of Americans are
very seized by the idea that North Korea plans an intercontinental
ballistic missile, but the reality is their threat right now, whatever
capabilities they do have of this sort, they’re regional; they’re not
intercontinental.
That’s worrisome enough to me at least, and to many
others. But it’s a very hard thing to prove. North Korea would like us
to believe they have these capabilities, but they have never tested a
nuclear weapon on a missile. That’s an international norm they have yet
to violate.
But an argument in many circles is that that’s not a risk
you can take lightly — you have to make assumptions as if they have
that kind of capability.
Zeeshan Aleem
And how would China and Russia feel about a preemptive attack?
Jonathan Pollack
China has a 1,400-kilometer shared border with North
Korea, and you have ethnic Koreans living in northeastern China.
Russia’s border with North Korea is tiny, but they have interests of
their own as well. Both Russia and China would see this as a profound
failure of the [nuclear] nonproliferation system if the US is prepared,
by definition of its own interests, to undertake these kinds of attacks
in the face of opposition from just about everybody else, to do it
unilaterally.
Zeeshan Aleem
So I’m pretty sure you think a preemptive strike wouldn’t be a good idea.
Jonathan Pollack
I understand that some people see North Korea as such an
inherent danger that we can’t rule out them doing something so extreme
that we have to therefore act before they act. And I don’t trivialize
the North: These are people who are heavily armed, they put enormous
resources into these programs, and the consequences for their own people
— their livelihood, their well-being — are pretty substantial.
But a lot of it boils down to whether or not you believe
that a nuclear weapon would be a usable capability. If I’m just reacting
to what the North Koreans say — and I’m not saying I therefore accept
it — most of their arguments are that they’re claiming these nuclear
weapons are for deterrence — in essence, the same thing we say all the
time.
A lot of people wouldn’t believe that; they look at the
government’s cruelty toward its own citizens, they look at it
assassinating a family member in a foreign airport, they look to when
North Korea shot down a South Korean aircraft trying to prevent the
Olympics from going to Seoul in 1988. The argument would go [that]
there’s no lengths to which these guys won’t go if presented the
opportunity.
So first things first, you have to make clear to them, and I think we do
make clear to them, that if they cross a range of thresholds, they will
have destruction heaped upon them on a scale that is unimaginable. We
can only hope that that really keeps them in the box they are in,
because the box is one of their own making, frankly.
I readily accept that this does not come cheaply, but I
don’t know that we or anyone else has alternatives. Some people would
say you could negotiate with them, and that’s tried from time to time,
but I’m also familiar enough with what they expect from that process,
and it’s not a price that any American president would be prepared to
pay.
Zeeshan Aleem
You say there are no good options. What’s the least worst option for handling North Korea?
Jonathan Pollack
The least worst options are what we’re doing. Number one,
we are reinforcing our military presence on the peninsula and the
surrounding areas to make it abundantly clear that we will respond to
anything severe that North Korea undertakes.
Not that I’m a huge believer in missile defense, but we’re augmenting those kind of capabilities like THAAD
with the hopes that, in the unlikely event that North Korea would use
missiles against the South, you shoot them down before they hit South
Korean or Japanese territory.
Number two, give absolute assurance to your Korean and
Japanese allies that we’re going to be with them through thick and thin,
that we won’t cut side deals that will disadvantage them. They’ve got
to know that — if they don’t know that, what you’re going to see is a
sentiment over time, in both Korea and Japan, that says, “You know,
maybe we really can’t rely on the US; maybe we need some of these
weapons of our own.”
Number three, we
have to work as closely as we possibly can with China in particular to
work toward more of a coordinated strategy. The game we have played
with China, and that China plays with us, is that we always tell China,
“You could bring these guys to heel; if you really, really wanted to do
it, you could.” The Chinese will say, “You Americans, you’re the threat
to them,” and so on. We blame one another — that creates running room
for North Korea.
The US and China have compelling shared interests —
neither China nor the US wants to see in perpetuity a nuclear-armed
North Korea. And the other core shared conviction of the US and China is
that we don’t want another Korean War on the peninsula; it would be a
disaster of unimaginable proportions.
We have to be prepared that this is going to be a
longer-term effort to constrict what North Korea does, to make life as
difficult as we can for them, to deny them external economic
opportunities, to not legitimate in any way the nuclear weapons they
possess. All of this is going to be tough and demanding and long term.